Last updated on November 4th, 2019 at 10:05 pm
A properly working RV waste dump valve should not leak and should be easy to operate. If you have a waste valve that leaks even a little, or the gate doesn’t open and close with ease then it’s time to replace it. Don’t wait… it won’t get better and as it gets worse the replacement may get more difficult.
Also, if you have a hard-to-reach waste valve you may want to consider installing an electrically operated waste valve. Although installing the wiring and switch will require additional time and labor, in the long run, you’ll appreciate the convenience of remotely operating the valve.
RV Waste Dump Valve Leaks
Keep in mind it is not uncommon to have a leaking valve on occasion. This is often caused by debris that gets stuck in the valve when closing it after dumping. You can usually remove the obstruction and eliminate the leak by opening and closing the valve a few times during the next dump.
If you continually find liquid each time you remove the drain cap it’s time to replace the leaking waste valve.
Waste Valve Hard to Open and Close
Over time you may find the valve handle getting harder to pull open and/or push closed. If it gets too hard to open you may find the last pull of the handle will pull the rod right out of the valve blade and drastic measures will be needed to dump the tank. Of course, you will have to replace the valve then anyway so why wait?
Often times a difficult to operate valve will also be a leaking valve. But you will need to determine if another valve isn’t the source of the leak or also is leaking.
Determining Which Valve Is Leaking
Before I go further, I need to say what will be obvious to most. You need to have access to a sewer connection to perform a waste valve replacement. You will have to dump then thoroughly flush each waste tank. After the tanks are flushed as clean as possible the tanks should be completely drained. All of this takes a lot of time. Out of courtesy to your fellow RVers, this work should not be attempted at a public dump station.
Also, while most RVs have two holding tanks, one gray and one black, it is not unusual for RVs to have three tanks and it’s possible to have more.
So, now that you have all the tanks dumped, flushed, and drained you can determine which tanks are leaking by closing the valve of each tank individually… one at a time… and filling the tank with a few gallons of water. Depending on how much the tank leaks, you may have to wait several minutes to see a flow. Test each tank in this manner since you may have more that one valve leaking.
As an alternative to this testing, you may just want to replace all the valves. They are not expensive and a little preventive maintenance now could save you repeating the dump, flush and drain procedure in the future.
Removing the Old Waste Valve
RV builders are some of the most ‘creative’ folks you’ll ever meet. They can devise amazing ways to plumb waste holding tanks to the waste drain. Unfortunately, this creativity sometimes overlooks the fact that, someday, the waste valves may need to be replaced.
My RV tech has told me a few horror stories. Like trying to get access to a valve and needing to remove one holding tank to replace a valve on another tank.
The usual problem stems from the need to spread the valve flanges wide enough… about 2 inches… to remove and replace the gate valve. Two inches may not seem like much but depending on how the manufacturer plumbed the waste system there might not be enough give in the plumbing to do it.
So, before you make the decision to DIY it, be sure you know what you’re getting in to.
If you go ahead, you may want to consider making some modifications, if possible, to the plumbing to make future valve replacements easier.
For example, strategically cutting a pipe may make it much easier to replace the valve now and in the future. The pipe can be easily ‘repaired’ using a flexible coupling as shown here. These couplings slide over the joint and are sealed by tightening the hose clamps. Just make sure you think it through or get advice BEFORE you make the cut.
The rubber couplers are tough but you may need to install an additional hanger or bracket to support the weight of the plumbing.
I used flexible couplers on my RV plumbing modification several years ago and they are still doing fine. Click Here to see what I did.
Fortunately, on most RVs, removing and replacing a waste valve is straight forward and reasonably quick.
Once you have the old gate valve and flange seals removed, clean and dry the flanges.
Installing a New RV waste dump valve
Modern RVs use industry-standard parts and you should be able to find replacement gate valves at any RV store or repair shop.
If you need to make modifications to the waste tank drain plumbing that requires additional materials you may be able to get it all at your RV shop. Check there first as some plumbing parts are RV specific. Common plumbing supplies such as additional pipe, elbows, and couplers not available at the RV shop can be purchased at any home improvement store.
The photo below shows a typical waste valve replacement kit. It contains a new gate valve, two new seals and new bolts and nuts.
For the purpose of good photography and so that you don’t have to look at some nasty old plumbing I’ve used new parts to illustrate my text. It should be easy enough for you to extrapolate what you see here to what your plumbing looks like.
Installing New Flange Seals
With the flanges clean and dry it’s time to install the flange seals.
Start by applying a liberal coat of petroleum jelly to each seal and the slide track for the gate. You don’t have to gob it on. The petroleum jelly acts as an additional seal and helps the valve assembly seat properly on the seal. Once the new gate valve is installed, the petroleum jelly lubricates the gate and helps to keep it sliding easily.
Installing the Gate Valve Assembly
With the new seals placed on each flange, it’s time to install the gate valve.
To ensure you don’t dislodge the seals it is important that you spread the flanges far enough apart to easily slip the gate valve into place. It’s not difficult or complicated and you should be able to feel and see that the valve is properly placed.
With the gate valve held in place by the two flanges, check for even spacing between the valve body and the flanges. Even spacing is a good indication the valve is placed properly.
Align the valve body so the bolt holes line up and install the bolts and nuts. With the nuts finger tight, again check for even spacing between the flange and valve body. Now operate the slide gate a couple of times. It should slide easily with no hesitation. If it doesn’t, disassemble the valve and reinstall the seals.
If the gate valve slides freely then tighten the nuts to close the gap between the flanges and the valve body. The nuts should be snugged tight but not over tightened.
With the bolts tightened and the gap closed, check the valve operation again. It should slide easily with no hesitation. If it doesn’t, disassemble the valve and reinstall the seals.
If you are happy with the valve operation, you are done.
Congratulations you just saved yourself a lot of money by doing the job yourself!
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Can’t see the pictures with this article.
Thank you, thank you! I tried something different with the graphic and it didn’t work. The images were there when I viewed the post but it was loading them from my desktop.
Good pictures
Rubber coupler, “outside the box”
Genius
Thanks, Glen
Thanks, Glen.
If the bottom of your RV is sealed how do you get to your waste waste water valve
If the bottom pan cannot be removed (no screws or bolts) then you will have to cut an access hole to get at the valve. Once the valve is repaired, you can patch the opening with compatible material.
Thanks for the great info, Your pictures are perfect and provide the understanding that is needed.
Double thanks for NOT video. (We are traveling and have limited Internet access.)
Now, I need to find new valves and then to see if I have the necessary 2″ of space to do the replacement.
Thank you.. It is always nice to hear that someone finds our information helpful. We all learn from each other.
I have veri light Forest River 70 series how do I put sewer and grey valves back together
Mark, I did my best to explain the process in the article above. Unless you have specific questions, I cannot provide more information.
how do i replace the valve when the holding tank is full?
See this article: I Pulled the Dump Valve but the Tank Won’t Drain?
Robert and Steven you guys got a problem . if you cannot pull the handle to dump because they are broken then you have to disassemble the valve while the waste is still in the tank. Going to be a messy job. Loosen all the screws 4 of them as far as they will go without removing them then get a prybar and seperate the gate allowing it to drain the tank. Nasty.